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Post by Dobot on Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:17 am

I read thru the comments in the other forum and I think for the best interest of the rest, those who have went to have a look at their premise would be able to share defect on the construction that they found so that the other can take note and inspect their unit as well for the same defect. Question

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Post by johnvk on Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:57 am

** taken from other site

Hi, my dear AH purchasers. I paid my 6th visit to AH after 3 years. Went to my unit to take a look. From my unit, I saw here and there some marking on the defects where I think the developer is doing some inspection and QC check. I inspected the whole unit myself. Found quite a number of cracks here and there where the developer fails to track. I went to some other units to compare. Basically here are the common problem I notice:
1) cracks, especially on wall where sockets are installed, or on top of the door frame;
2) broken door;
3) broken tiles especially in the bathroom;
4) missing ceiling cover in bathroom;
5) chips on edges and body of the wall;
6) crack and water leaking mark on the wall, especially ground floor;
7) chips on the staircase.

There are a lot more. Only you see it then you know. Also I found the drilling hole for wiring is not quite consistent for each unit, some holes are very large, some are pretty small and nice sealed. If you have time, worth to go there to take a look and if you found further defect examples, it will be great if you could share so that everyone can take note when doing inspection together with developer during key handover.

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Just to add some more

Post by JiNG on Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:08 pm

Hi There,

As I went in to AH1, i found some defects as well.. Basically if you look properly at the master bed room Toilet, the bath area is shorter compare to the one in Show Room. The tile used is smaller as well. Plus, when I inspec level 1 and level 2, the bath area for the toilet has different size, meaning its not standard. Im not sure about the other floor, but please check and let me know if its my illusion or its really a defects. Razz

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Post by hans on Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:07 am

ur right..something is different...need to measure i guess..the tiles are not nice also as per shown in show hse........ Smile

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Post by JiNG on Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:08 pm

Yo all.. Since individual will check for the defects in their house and list down for developer to improve... Then how about the common area? haha.. i mean the public area.. Shud we make a group visit and list down all the defects, such as swimming pool, gym room, trees, or some cracks at the security alarms or device.. hhmm.. posible? or they do not care about the minor cracks outside our house? hehe

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Post by thedude on Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:46 pm

Just called AH, apparently Public Bank have yet to release the payment.
But maybe I'll still go to get some measurements.
If I go, I'll be there around 10 am.
Anyone interested?

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Post by kelvin on Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:43 pm

HI Dude, I will be there tomorrow 10am also to take my key and already make appoinment for inspection. Oxbc already release the money on wednesday. Hope I will not see much defect >.<. silent

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Post by T on Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:27 am

i received a letter today from public bank about the cheques being sent to both Premier Consortium and solicitor, guess they should have received the payment by now.. by the way, it's from Seri Kembangan branch..

wish to join you guys tomorrow but i've got some other appointment.. my appointment of inspection with them is next saturday.. do share your experience Very Happy

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Post by hans on Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:11 am

Im going on monday.....really dunno much abt inspection.....but i'm really dissapointed with the change of tiles in bathrooms....am i right? anyone know abt this?...anyone know abt private inspectors who can do our job?
If there is such thing...they will be professional in their field and will do excellent fault finding for us...as we are laymen maybe easily get convvinced by them. Its a simple thing for the pros to check n iguess the fee wont be expensive...and if we give them bussiness as a group..itll be definately cheaper.

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Post by hans on Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:05 am

Hi...

I'm AH2 buyer. Recently I went to a property exibition in Midvalley. There was presentation on common defect in condo or houses, and he mentioned some of the defect can't be seen in naked eyes by the buyer. There were question and answer session, on;crack tiles, water leakage from the floor above yours and misalignment and etc. After talking to him, he guided me what are the things we have to check in our unit before we carry out our renovation stuff.It was good tips.You guys can check their website:http://www.canaanbuildinginspector.com/index.htm.We can also hire them to do the cheking for us.The cost is some where around:500-600(depends on the sq feet).They will provide us a full report on the total defect with attachement of photo and cd.He also advice that once we past the report to the developer,they have to sign it.So from the date they have sign within certain period of timethey have to check your unit and rectify your default and if they fail to do so you can issue your own quotation for the defects and sent the copies to the developer and the lawyer,if they still ignore it then you can go to: Tribunal Tuntututan Pembeli Rumah(http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt/main.php).For more info on this you can email:wlkang@canaanbuildinginspector.com.Hope this info helps --Catherine

Thx catherine...i just posted this inquiry today morning...
Guys..any ides?

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Post by kelvin on Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:50 pm

Hi all, just back for my house inspection. just a little bit to share for what i found in my unit. Overall, the paint work is bad, the so call touch up have very poor wormanship as well and paint mark all over the windows, door area. I found 2 socket missing, 2 water flexible hose missing, 1 water taip missing, 1 severe crack mark, 3 unequal wall surface, few holes here and there and some paint crack. Remember to try all your key as well, one of my room door key is not match, and another door cannot close properly. some door lock can see the rusty sign. not sure can ask them to change or not. The tile color look very dump as well. One more thing, I had been told My LAD will be paid in 6 post dated cheque =.= for those amount more than 3k, and those less than 2k will paid in 3 post dated cheque.
will go and check again tomorrow in detail. Feel free to share here what had you all found.

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Post by hans on Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:37 pm

Spoken to the contaxt which Catherine provided.
Sounds like he is professiona in this field..check out the mentioned website.
He will take around 4-5 hrs to check everything, from wall,tiles,cracks,plumbing...to cut it short...all specific details....
so far the cost for our sqr ft would be around RM600. then a report will be prepared to be given to the developer to rectify.
there are 2 packages, 1st: To check n prepare report n we check later for the rectification., 2nd : check,report, and will check again for rectification if its done prefoessionally....this 1 would be more expensive....what do guyus think?

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Re: List of possible house defect

Post by pg on Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:02 pm

Hi, those who had done the AH inspection, may you tell more
1) What they have given you? A list?
2) Do they tour you around the unit and guide you to check?
3) How long is the inspection?
4) What you need to do after the inspection? To sign something?
5) How long the developer need to fix those defects we reported? Do we need to pass the key to developer? Or how?

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Post by thedude on Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:48 pm

kelvin wrote:HI Dude, I will be there tomorrow 10am also to take my key and already make appoinment for inspection. Oxbc already release the money on wednesday. Hope I will not see much defect >.<. silent


Got meh? I no see u leh.
I was there around 9 plus.
Were you the one with your pregnant wife?

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Post by thedude on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:00 am

My LAD is just below 3k and yes, it will be paid in 3 separate cheques / payment.
My complaints TO-DATE:

- Missing kitchen tap
- Wet area glass on door missing
- Some keys not working
- Bedrooms windows cannot open fully because it's blocked by the ceiling.
- Bedroom door damaged. I guess this was damaged by strong wind. Do check if you r on the higher floors.
- Wall surface uneven.
- Crack lines
- Poor repair of cracklines
- Kitchen tiles not properly cemented. Got holes and gaps.
- Dirty walls
- Holes on wall but no plug point

And for those who took the electrical upgrade package, please do check whether all the extra points you paid for are there.
I did a mistake coz I forgot to bring along the documents to check.
Note that the list AH provide you doesn't specify how many extra points there are.
I think my living room is missing a 13A point.
I can't remember who, but the advise to bring along the masking tape and marker pen is SOOOOO RIGHT !!!!
Thanks...!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Re: List of possible house defect

Post by kelvin on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:38 am

thedude wrote:
kelvin wrote:HI Dude, I will be there tomorrow 10am also to take my key and already make appoinment for inspection. Oxbc already release the money on wednesday. Hope I will not see much defect >.<. silent


Got meh? I no see u leh.
I was there around 9 plus.
Were you the one with your pregnant wife?


Not ler, I wear singlet and shorts. I come around 10AM, are you the one went for inspection before me?

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Post by kelvin on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:45 am

thedude wrote:My LAD is just below 3k and yes, it will be paid in 3 separate cheques / payment.
My complaints TO-DATE:

- Missing kitchen tap
- Wet area glass on door missing
- Some keys not working
- Bedrooms windows cannot open fully because it's blocked by the ceiling.
- Bedroom door damaged. I guess this was damaged by strong wind. Do check if you r on the higher floors.
- Wall surface uneven.
- Crack lines
- Poor repair of cracklines
- Kitchen tiles not properly cemented. Got holes and gaps.
- Dirty walls
- Holes on wall but no plug point


And for those who took the electrical upgrade package, please do check whether all the extra points you paid for are there.
I did a mistake coz I forgot to bring along the documents to check.
Note that the list AH provide you doesn't specify how many extra points there are.
I think my living room is missing a 13A point.
I can't remember who, but the advise to bring along the masking tape and marker pen is SOOOOO RIGHT !!!!
Thanks...!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


almost similar like mine, ya it damn useful using the masking tape. Just put "all detail refer to the masking tape sign" in the remark column of ur defect form will do. But I feel I abit hurry today so just put down all major problem, I plan to went back later morning to check in detail. Lucky not much crack seen, mostly is poor paint work and poor crack line repair.

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Post by thedude on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:58 am

This morning I wasn't rushing BUT the AH rep is. A lot of people coming and they seems impatient. So I only noted some of the big item. I guess I'll go again next week with my magnifying glass to check on the rest. Very Happy
But hopefully not much lah.
Did you guys complain about the uneven wall?
Make sure you do.
It cost a bundle to plaster the thing on your own.

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Post by johnvk on Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:37 am

i was there today around 10.30am..
since alot of people , i knew they will rush rush..so i made appt on monday so tat i will have my own sweet time to check
hmm and i will make sure i will bring along the tape n marker..ehhehe thanks for the reminder....

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Re: List of possible house defect

Post by T on Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:25 am

is there anything we need to sign off after the inspection?

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Post by thedude on Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:07 am

Yes. The complaint checklist.
The facilities checklist.
U should get a copy of everything.

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Hahahaa.... lol!
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Post by johnvk on Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:42 pm

haahah..true i have a partner...now.. soon will franchise..huhuhu

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Re: List of possible house defect

Post by T on Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:14 pm

oh now you know i'm an night owl Twisted Evil

john is not vampire, he's the vampire hunter - Blade, half man half vampire, AKA daywalker, of course can expose to the sun.. sunbathing also no problem Cool

okay so we have complaint checklist and facilities checklist to sign after the inspection, anything not satisfy can note down for developer to rectify right? even after that we discover more defect can also submit to them for rectify, does it work that way? or after we signoff the checklists, any new defect will be filed seperately under warranty or something like that?

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Post by thedude on Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:38 pm

The first time they go with you there's only 1 form.
After that you can request for as many form as you like until your 18-month is up.
No need to be too "kan cheong" if you find many defects when you first check.
But if after they said they've repaired but u still found the defects there you can be very "kan cheong".
1 very important thing is the water proofing which we can't check now since there's no water supply.
And also the electrical switches.
If possible get your upstair neighbour (provided u r not on the penthouse) to flood their toilets or balcony or wet area and check whether the water will seep through or not.
If anyone is staying at A-21-3 want to check for leaks after there's water supply then just let me know. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Re: List of possible house defect

Post by thedude on Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:45 pm

[quote="T"]oh now you know i'm an night owl Twisted Evil

john is not vampire, he's the vampire hunter - Blade, half man half vampire, AKA daywalker, of course can expose to the sun.. sunbathing also no problem Cool
quote]

T,
If johnvk is the Blade then u must be Jessica Biel? affraid affraid affraid
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